In response to:
https://gab.com/volkischexe/posts/108745645184350950
https://wiccawicci.com/philosophy/nihilism
Okay, I read it.
You assert that nihilists are basically lazy and inconsistent because they don't believe anything matters. But they do - to them, it matters very much that everyone else accept their apparent point of view and Submit to it, lest they remain dangerously motivated against it.
Further, while it's true that they love to initiate change - seemingly for its own sake - it's really so they alone can control the infliction of pain-causing damage first rather than continue to have it inflicted on them by others.
Change initiated by others really scares them, which is precisely why they so-fervently want to dominate it ALL.
They hate and fear their own brains' "painful" detection of patterns of difference - and so try to neutralize such "diversity" by ignoring it, and/or "equalizing" it just by "including" it in the same categories as that which it clearly differs from.
But difference is endemic to existence, so their desire to crush all of the risky dynamics of life to render them "safely" static, can never succeed.
As for whether or not any truly objective "Greater Meaning"/Higher Purpose" (and/or Greater Purpose/ Higher Meaning) exists - no it doesn't: the only purpose of existence is to exist, and of life is to life.
The purpose of consciousness seems to be to sort and discriminate patterns, to categorize them into dynamic perception and static conception, and perhaps maybe even to try to turn all risky dynamic perceptions into safely static conceptions after all, but in a sane and logical way, as in to learn to heed one's fears as helpful internally generated warnings to learn from to avoid future pain-causing damages, rather than illogically in the literally backwards and insane manner as to regard one's own fears as threatening externally-inflicted additional damage-causing pains, to be ignored avoided and even foolishly attacked, to embrace hope as a plan in order to heal damage, as Christians are taught to do.
In short, I believe this has always been a war of hypocrite criminals against their honest civilized law-abiding victims, not one where we are only harming ourselves and our posterity by attempting to conform to universal, global ideologies - as long as that global ideology is hypocritology.
This could well lead to a Roddenberry-like Utopian future for all of mankind in its various nations - where the Blacks and Muslims, like the "Klingons" they were coyly mocked as, must learn self-control of their own greater violent animal instincts than ours, but also to not resent us for the relative ease by which we can control ours.
However, regarding your final conclusion that: "you were not gifted with free will and intelligence so that you can send yourself down a spiral that ends in black nothingness. Your existence matters because you exist."
Well, maybe not, but "the gods" certainly can and often do - my family has a history of Alzheimer's, where all of our thoughts and free-will choices and intelligence spiral down into black nothingness where we are forgotten and erased, whether we like it or not.
As for being deliberately Created - again, No.
As I like to tell Abrahamic monotheistic Christians:
There is no higher power, greater meaning or higher purpose; it's always all material. The purpose of existence is to exist, of life to live, and of consciousness to sort symptoms from causes to better avoid pain-causing damage, the fear of it, the greed for less and the ultimately useless hope of no more of any of it ever again.
That emotional and sensational cycle is known as dharma.
Christianity is a lie, as it promises an eternal damage, pain, fear, and greed (and therefore also hope and consciousness-free) heaven, which is totally impossible because without experiencing all of them, we can't experience any of them. Further, "Sin!" by all of its symptoms, is nothing more than all-too-common hypocrisy; it's not some magical, "spiritual stain" on one's "soul" (consciousness) which only a god can absolve forgive and remove. It was the criminal choice to attack thereby innocent other people first, and as it was one's own free-will choice, only one's self can remove it by first repenting of it and asking one's victims for forgiveness while offering them reparations. No one - not even the alleged One True God, Creator of the entire Universe, aka the First Cause and Prime Mover (which by definition must always attack every one and every thing else first, even if just by the act of creating them, and thus is by our definition entirely immoral itself) can defeat and save even its self from dharma, much less promise anyone else that it can and will "Save!" them from it, much less just for declaring by turning off their equally allegedly god-given brain's pattern-detecting ability, to have some sort of false "Faith!" and to "Believe!" in what they do not know and even if they did, makes no logical sense, as I have just explained. Nor can anyone just "not-attack-first" their way into heaven, either. It doesn't exist.
There is no "after" life which can be any different than this one. Dharma is eternally part of consciousness.
As for "Faith:"
Re: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1 KJV
No. Hope of things not proven by yet being seen and realized is the exact OPPOSITE of "evidence." It's denial of evidence. And mere Hope (aka "Faith!" and "Belief!") is NOT "A Plan!" at all, and in fact, it's a recipe for disaster.
Christianity projects nebulous hope as a solid future fact, as "Faith!" and "Belief!" that God has, embodies and will reveal the perfect solution to every problem in one Final Day of Judgment. The problem with this idol is, "The" Perfect Solution to every problem can't exist, because the perfect solution for one problem not only wouldn't also perfectly fit even a slightly different problem, and might cause other ones; but even if it could, it would unify the whole universe to such an extent that it would cease to be fractured divided and "damaged" and so we would all simply cease to be conscious at all, as no differences would exist for our brains' pattern detectors to discriminate, de-fine, etc and it would all become a solid Nothing.
And of course there can be no "Beginning" of Everything and/or End of it all/Final Day of Judgment, simply because the only thing which cannot exist is Nothingness "itself" and to have a 'Beginning' implies Nothingness DID once upon a time exist, and the putative End of All Things presumes it will exist again in the future.
Re: " We weren't created to conform to a single, unchanging worldview - if we were, achieving such unity would be a trivial matter, because it would be natural. n our limited capacity as humans, we cannot possibly play the role of the gods. It isn't within our authority to determine which nations - or which people - have a right to exist. The intentional nature of our existence is what gives us the right to exist." And, re: "we are only harming ourselves and our posterity by attempting to conform to universal, global ideologies."
So again, I say: No!
Maybe there aren't any more things, people, nations, or "souls" (consciousnesses) than just you.
Let's speculate about the Christians' theology, where their One True God, Creator of the Entire Universe, Prime Mover and First Cause ideal, is omniscient and supreme, and, as Spirit trumps flesh, only dynamic mind truly exists, and static matter is only an illusion.
But then that also means that for the illusion to fool the Godly uber-mind, it must be created by that same God's Mind - as Doubt.
So thoughts alone, even as a god (say, Thoth) doesn't mean all "spiritual" thought is logical sane or even good and efficient - there can be mistakes and "bad" thoughts, too.
God thinks: "I am Perfect, and, as I Am everything, I can and will do anything I want, when and where ever I want to do it! Whee!"
But then, because he is thought and therefore has to think all thoughts, even the incorrect ones, he also thinks:
"But what if I'm wrong? What if I did evolve from mere insensate matter, but, since then I was insensate until I wasn't, I certainly couldn't remember any of it?"
So God, by being infinite and eternally conscious, must invent Doubt. Which means our "Faith!" in Him as the Only Perfect Being is utterly useless, as not even He can have Perfect Faith in His own Self, much less in us and ours!
And more, since he can and will do anything and eventually, through being bored and distracted by doubts, everything, he eventually creates a whole lot of little versions of him self (aka the pagan gods, and then us) to play out his infinite mental/spiritual speculative fantasies - and because we have different hopes dreams wishes and desires in our doubt-limited ("faithless") lives, we are in conflicts with each other, and so we are limited to "laws" of physics just to even peacefully co-exist?
So maybe, as you say, he speculates that other councils of lesser, "pagan" gods have also always existed (and therefore they do) to monitor and influence the various Nations and Tribes in their separately "evolved" environments, too.
So we can see how that Judeo-Christian "God is pure spirit, power and will, and thought itself and is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent" theory works out in real life?
As in: it doesn't, because it can't. If and when one is omniscient, then, since consciousness can only exist to learn to think about things, and one already knows everything, then one cannot learn or think because one has literally nothing left to learn.
Similarly, if one is both omnipresent and omnipotent, then, as one is already everywhere, having left and arrived, one has nowhere left to go, and nothing left to do to expend any more power, having already done everything - so in effect one is mindless, powerless, and nowhere; again, when one's god is generally only "Everything!" then it is also by definition specifically only "Nothing."
In Conclusion: What you call "Nihilists," I identify as hypocrites!
;-)
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